Wednesday, September 20, 2023

From Mordecai Sultansky (c.1771-1862)

Mordecai Sultansky (c. 1771 - 1862) was a Crimean Karaite Jewish scholar known for his contributions to Karaite theology and jurisprudence. He was born in Lutsk but spent much of his life in Crimea leading the Karaite community there. He gained prominence through his various scholarly works. Sultansky was also instrumental in establishing Karaite educational institutions throughout Crimea and Ukraine and was a leading figure within Crimean Karaite Judaism.

Mordecai (ben Yosef) ben Joseph Sultansky (1772-1862) begat

-- Daughter (likely Anna) Sultanska with Moses (Moshe) Lutsky begat
-- Sarah Lutska with David (Dovid) Ovadia begat
-- Rivka Ovadia with Abraham (Avraham) Weimar (a relative of the Weimars from Langensoultzbach, France; Prague, Czechia; and Salomon Weimar of Lviv, Ukraine) begat
-- Henry Philip Weimar with Sarah Mina Early begat
-- Earl (Tsvi) Weimar with Ruth Rhine (a relative of the Rhine family of Belz, Ukraine who are followers of the Belzer Rebbe) begat
-- Harry (Chaim) Weimar with Delphine Hinck begat
-- D. (D.) Weimar with W.S. Hatting begat

S.V. (D.) Hatting

Thus numbering the total generations from Mordecai Sultansky to the current generation as 9 making the last generation the 6-Great Grandson.

From Uthman ibn Affan (One of the Companions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh))

Uthman ibn Affan (c. 576–656 CE) was the third Caliph of the Islamic community (r. 644–656 CE), succeeding Abu Bakr and Umar ibn al-Khattab. A close companion of Prophet Muhammad, he belonged to the influential Umayyad clan of the Quraysh tribe. Uthman is perhaps best known for commissioning the compilation and standardization of the Quran into a single text, a monumental achievement that has had lasting impact on Islamic scholarship and practice.

Uthman ibn Affan with Ramla bint Shayba begat

-- Umm Aban al-Kubra bint Uthman with Marwan I ibn al-Hakam begat
-- Umm bint Marwan with Musa ibn Nuseir al-Bekir begat
-- Abu Musa ibn Uthman with Lampade of Aquitaine begat
-- Magdelena, Heiress of Urgel & Cerdanya, with Sigibert V de Razes begat
-- Bello Bera III de Rousilon with Alba begat
-- Wilfred I el Velloso with Winifred of Flanders begat
-- Miron II de Besalu with Ava de Ribagoza begat
-- Olivia II de Cabreta with Ermengarde de Ampurias begat
-- Bernardo de Besalu with Toda of Arles and Provence begat
-- William I de Besalu with Adelaide begat
-- William II de Besalu with Stephanie of Provence begat
-- Stephanie de Besalu with Roger de Foix begat
-- Roger III de Foix with Ximene of Barcelona begat
-- Rohese de Foix with Thomas DeSpencer begat
-- Hugh DeSpencer begat
-- Hugh DeSpencer with Aline Basset begat
-- Hugh DeSpencer with Isabel Beauchamp begat
-- Hugh "The Younger" DeSpencer with Eleanor de Clare begat
-- Elizabeth DeSpencer with Maurice de Berkeley begat
-- James de Berkeley with Isabel de Mowbray begat
-- Elizabeth de Berkeley with Thomas Burdett begat
-- Mary Burdett with Peter Cave begat
-- Thomas Cave with Thamasine Passamer begat
-- Richard Cave with Margaret Saxby begat
-- Bridget Cave with Francis Tanfield begat
-- Anne Tanfield with Clement Vincent begat
-- Elizabeth Vincent with Richard Lane begat
-- Dorothy Lane with William Randolph begat
-- Richard Randolph with Elizabeth Ryland begat
-- William Randolph of Virginia with Mary Isham begat
-- Thomas Randolph with Judith Fleming begat
-- Col. William Randolph with Maria Judith Page begat
-- Mary Randolph with Tarlton Fleming begat
-- William Randolph Fleming with Anna Webb begat
-- John Tarlton Fleming with Sarah Turner begat
-- Lucretia Jane Turner Fleming with Martin Guyan Blair begat
-- Benjamin Vernaldo Blair with Myrtle Brown begat
-- Murial Lavern Blair with Wayne Willis Hatting begat
-- W.S. Hatting with D. Weimar begat

S.V. Hatting

Thus numbering the total generations listed here to 42 making the final generation the 39-Great Grandson to Uthman ibn Affan.

Saturday, August 14, 2021

TV Show "Vikings" Ancestry

It may surprise some of you to know that many of the characters depicted in the TV show "Vikings" were based on real people. However, the TV show took some creative licence when it came to depicting their lives.


Descent from Ragnar Lothbrok through Bjorn Ironside

The show spends its first 4 seasons revolving around the character Ragnar Lothbrok and then his sons in seasons 5-6. My ancestry to him goes through at least 2 sons. The first through Bjorn Ironside is as follows:

-- Ragnar Lothbrok (Ragnarr Loðbrók) with Aslaug begat
-- Björn Ironside, Legendary King of Sweden and founder of the Munsö dynasty, begat
-- Erik Björnsson, Legendary King of Sweden, begat
-- Anund Uppsale, Legendary King of Sweden, begat
-- Erik Anundsson, Legendary King of Sweden, begat
-- Björn Eriksson, Legendary King of Sweden, begat
-- King Olof Skötkonung of Sweden, who gave refuge to Edward the Exile, begat
-- Anna Yaroslavna of Kiev, Queen of France, who married King Henry I of France, begat
-- King Phillip I of France, begat
-- King Louis VI of France, begat
-- King Louis VII of France, begat
-- King Philip II Augustus of France, begat
-- King Louis VIII of France, begat
-- King Louis IX of France, begat
-- King Philip III of France, begat
-- King Philip IV of France, begat
-- Queen Isabella who married King Edward II of England, begat
-- King Edward III of England, begat
-- John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, begat
-- Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland, begat
-- Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny, begat
-- Catherine Neville, who married Sir Robert Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Sir William Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Sir Francis Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Anne Tanfield, who married Sir Clement Vincent, KBE, begat
-- Elizabeth Vincent, who married Sir Richard Lane, KBE, begat
-- Dorothy Lane, who married William Randolph, begat
-- Richard Randolph, begat
-- William Randolph26th Speaker of the Virginia House of Burgesses, founder of the College of William and Mary, and co-founder of the British colony of Virginia, begat
-- The Honourable Thomas Randolph, member of the Virginia House of Burgesses, begat
-- Col. William Randolph, cousin to President Thomas Jefferson, begat
-- Mary Randolph, who married Col. Tarlton Fleming, begat
-- The Honourable William Randolph Fleming, U.S. Representative from Virginia, begat
-- John Tarlton Fleming begat
-- Lucretia Jane Turner Fleming, who married Martin Guyan Blair, begat
-- Benjamin Vernaldo Blair, DVM, begat
-- Muriel Lavern Blair, who married Wayne Willis Hatting, begat
-- W.S. Hatting begat
-- S.V. Hatting

Thus making Ragnar Lothbrok my 39th Great Grandfather through Bjorn Ironside - my 38th Great Grandfather.

Descent through Ivar the Boneless

The second son that I have been able to find is through Ivar the Boneless, but there may be some possible inaccuracies or extrapolation around Torfulus and Renaud "the Dane" and their ancestry. In any case, my ancestry is as follows:

-- Ragnar Lothbrok (Ragnarr Loðbrók) with Aslaug begat
-- Yngvar Ragnarsson (Ivar the Boneless) begat
-- Gommeri "the Great" Yngvarsson begat
-- Roger de Monte begat
-- Torfulus (Torf) "the Rich" de Harcourt begat
-- Lessaline de Dammartin, who married Hildouin III, Count of Montdidier, begat
-- Hildouin IV, Count of Montdidier and Lord of Ramerupt, begat
-- Margaret de Montdidier, who married Hugh I, begat
-- Adeliza of Clermont, who married Gilbert de Clare, begat
-- Adeliza de Clare, who married Alberic de Vere, begat
-- Aubrey de Vere, 1st Earl of Oxford, begat
-- Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford, begat
-- Hugh IV de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford, begat
-- Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford, begat
-- Joan de Vere, who married William de Warenne, begat
-- Alice de Warenne, Countess of Arundel, who married Edmund FitzAlan, begat
-- Richard FitzAlan, 3rd Earl of Arundel, begat
-- Richard FitzAlan, 4th Earl of Arundel, begat
-- Elizabeth FitzAlan, who married Thomas Mowbray, begat
-- Isabel de Mowbray, who married James de Berkeley, begat
-- Elizabeth de Berkeley, who married Thomas Burdett, begat
-- Mary Burdett, who married Peter Cave, begat
-- Thomas Cave begat
-- Richard Cave begat
-- Bridget Cave, who married Francis Tanfield KBE, begat
-- Anne Tanfield, who married Sir Clement Vincent, KBE, begat
-- Elizabeth Vincent, who married Sir Richard Lane, KBE, begat
-- Dorothy Lane, who married William Randolph, begat
-- Richard Randolph, begat
-- William Randolph26th Speaker of the Virginia House of Burgesses, founder of the College of William and Mary, and co-founder of the British colony of Virginia, begat
-- The Honourable Thomas Randolph, member of the Virginia House of Burgesses, begat
-- Col. William Randolph, cousin to President Thomas Jefferson, begat
-- Mary Randolph, who married Col. Tarlton Fleming, begat
-- The Honourable William Randolph Fleming, U.S. Representative from Virginia, begat
-- John Tarlton Fleming begat
-- Lucretia Jane Turner Fleming, who married Martin Guyan Blair, begat
-- Benjamin Vernaldo Blair, DVM, begat
-- Muriel Lavern Blair, who married Wayne Willis Hatting, begat
-- W.S. Hatting begat
-- S.V. Hatting

With all generations total, it makes Ragnar Lothbrok my 39th Great Grandfather through Ivar the Boneless - my 38th Great Grandfather.

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Descent from Rollo

While depicted as Ragnar's brother in the TV show, this is historically inaccurate since Ragnar was historically the alleged son of a wealthy nobleman while Rollo's ancestry is clouded with speculation. Rollo became the founder of Normandy whose descendants would later invade and conquer England under William the Conqueror. My ancestry to Rollo is as follows:

-- Rollo, Count of Rouen, begat
-- William Longsword, Count of Rouen, begat
-- Richard I, Count of Rouen, begat
-- Richard II, Duke of Normandy, begat
-- Robert I, Duke of Normandy, begat
-- Empress Matilda of England, who married Geoffrey Pantagenet, Count of Anjou, begat
-- King Edward III of England, begat
-- John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, begat
-- Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland, begat
-- Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny, begat
-- Catherine Neville, who married Sir Robert Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Sir William Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Sir Francis Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Anne Tanfield, who married Sir Clement Vincent, KBE, begat
-- Elizabeth Vincent, who married Sir Richard Lane, KBE, begat
-- Dorothy Lane, who married William Randolph, begat
-- Richard Randolph, begat
-- William Randolph26th Speaker of the Virginia House of Burgesses, founder of the College of William and Mary, and co-founder of the British colony of Virginia, begat
-- The Honourable Thomas Randolph, member of the Virginia House of Burgesses, begat
-- Col. William Randolph, cousin to President Thomas Jefferson, begat
-- Mary Randolph, who married Col. Tarlton Fleming, begat
-- The Honourable William Randolph Fleming, U.S. Representative from Virginia, begat
-- John Tarlton Fleming begat
-- Lucretia Jane Turner Fleming, who married Martin Guyan Blair, begat
-- Benjamin Vernaldo Blair, DVM, begat
-- Muriel Lavern Blair, who married Wayne Willis Hatting, begat
-- W.S. Hatting begat
-- S.V. Hatting

Thus making Rollo my 32nd Great Grandfather.

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Descent from King Ecbert through King Alfred the Great

While many of the main characters portrayed in the TV show "Vikings" are somewhat surrounded in ahistorical creative licence, King Alfred the Great was indeed the grandson of King Ecbert. Interestingly enough, while King Ecbert and King Alfred ardently professed Christianity in the show, their ancestry is one of the few that claims lineage from Odin through his son Baldr and a grandson named Brond or Brand. It has been alleged that Odin was actually a real person who had led his followers out of Turkey into Northern Germany and later became worshipped as a god, but this is a theory still contested. Nevertheless, the kings of Wessex and Mercia both claimed Odin as their ancestor. Here, you can find my ancestry to King Ecbert.

-- Edward the Exile, who was disinherited by King Cnut of Denmark & Norway, then sheltered by King Olof of Sweden, King Stephen I of Hungary, and Grand Prince of Kyiv Yaroslav the Wise, begat
-- Empress Matilda of England, who married Geoffrey Pantagenet, Count of Anjou, begat
-- King Edward III of England, begat
-- John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, begat
-- Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland, begat
-- Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny, begat
-- Catherine Neville, who married Sir Robert Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Sir William Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Sir Francis Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Anne Tanfield, who married Sir Clement Vincent, KBE, begat
-- Elizabeth Vincent, who married Sir Richard Lane, KBE, begat
-- Dorothy Lane, who married William Randolph, begat
-- Richard Randolph, begat
-- William Randolph26th Speaker of the Virginia House of Burgesses, founder of the College of William and Mary, and co-founder of the British colony of Virginia, begat
-- The Honourable Thomas Randolph, member of the Virginia House of Burgesses, begat
-- Col. William Randolph, cousin to President Thomas Jefferson, begat
-- Mary Randolph, who married Col. Tarlton Fleming, begat
-- The Honourable William Randolph Fleming, U.S. Representative from Virginia, begat
-- John Tarlton Fleming begat
-- Lucretia Jane Turner Fleming, who married Martin Guyan Blair, begat
-- Benjamin Vernaldo Blair, DVM, begat
-- Muriel Lavern Blair, who married Wayne Willis Hatting, begat
-- W.S. Hatting begat
-- S.V. Hatting

Thus making King Ecbert my 36th Great Grandfather and King Alfred the Great my 34th Great Grandfather.

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Descent from Halfdan the Black and King Harald Fairhair

While in the TV show "Vikings" Halfdan the Black and King Harald Finehair are depicted as brothers, they are actually based on real historical figures. King Harald Finehair is based on King Harald Fairhair who was actually the son of Halfdan the Black. And King Harald was really the true first king of all Norway as was depicted in the show. Also interesting to note, the paternal line also claims to be descended from Ragnar Lothbrok through his son Sigurd Snake-in-the-Eye and therefore the semi-mythical House of Ynglings. Here is my familial line:

-- Avelina Haraldsdotter(?), who married Osborne II de Bolebec (one of 15 companions specifically recorded to have accompanied William the Conqueror in his Norman invasion) begat
-- Adeliza de Clare, who married Alberic de Vere, begat
-- Aubrey de Vere, 1st Earl of Oxford, begat
-- Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford, begat
-- Hugh IV de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford, begat
-- Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford, begat
-- Joan de Vere, who married William de Warenne, begat
-- Alice de Warenne, Countess of Arundel, who married Edmund FitzAlan, begat
-- Richard FitzAlan, 3rd Earl of Arundel, begat
-- Richard FitzAlan, 4th Earl of Arundel, begat
-- Elizabeth FitzAlan, who married Thomas Mowbray, begat
-- Isabel de Mowbray, who married James de Berkeley, begat
-- Elizabeth de Berkeley, who married Thomas Burdett, begat
-- Mary Burdett, who married Peter Cave, begat
-- Thomas Cave begat
-- Richard Cave begat
-- Bridget Cave, who married Francis Tanfield KBE, begat
-- Anne Tanfield, who married Sir Clement Vincent, KBE, begat
-- Elizabeth Vincent, who married Sir Richard Lane, KBE, begat
-- Dorothy Lane, who married William Randolph, begat
-- Richard Randolph, begat
-- William Randolph26th Speaker of the Virginia House of Burgesses, founder of the College of William and Mary, and co-founder of the British colony of Virginia, begat
-- The Honourable Thomas Randolph, member of the Virginia House of Burgesses, begat
-- Col. William Randolph, cousin to President Thomas Jefferson, begat
-- Mary Randolph, who married Col. Tarlton Fleming, begat
-- The Honourable William Randolph Fleming, U.S. Representative from Virginia, begat
-- John Tarlton Fleming begat
-- Lucretia Jane Turner Fleming, who married Martin Guyan Blair, begat
-- Benjamin Vernaldo Blair, DVM, begat
-- Muriel Lavern Blair, who married Wayne Willis Hatting, begat
-- W.S. Hatting begat
-- S.V. Hatting

Thus making Halfdan the Black my 37th Great Grandfather and King Harald Fairhair of Norway my 36th Great Grandfather.

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Descent from Igor of Kiev

Igor doesn't make an appearance until the 6th season of "Vikings" and is portrayed as a shy orphaned noble controlled by his uncle Oleg until mentored by Ivar the Boneless. While there is no evidence to show that Ivar the Boneless ever went to Rus', the character of Igor of Kiev is based on a real person. My ancestry from him follows:

-- Vladimir Sviatoslavich the Great, Grand Prince of Kiev and Prince of Novgorod, begat
-- Yaroslav I Vladymirovich "the Wise", Grand Prince of Kiev, who gave refuge to Edward the Exile, begat
-- Anna Yaroslavna of Kiev, Queen of France, who married King Henry I of France, begat
-- King Phillip I of France, begat
-- King Louis VI of France, begat
-- King Louis VII of France, begat
-- King Philip II Augustus of France, begat
-- King Louis VIII of France, begat
-- King Louis IX of France, begat
-- King Philip III of France, begat
-- King Philip IV of France, begat
-- Queen Isabella who married King Edward II of England, begat
-- King Edward III of England, begat
-- John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster, begat
-- Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland, begat
-- Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny, begat
-- Catherine Neville, who married Sir Robert Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Sir William Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Sir Francis Tanfield, KBE, begat
-- Anne Tanfield, who married Sir Clement Vincent, KBE, begat
-- Elizabeth Vincent, who married Sir Richard Lane, KBE, begat
-- Dorothy Lane, who married William Randolph, begat
-- Richard Randolph, begat
-- William Randolph26th Speaker of the Virginia House of Burgesses, founder of the College of William and Mary, and co-founder of the British colony of Virginia, begat
-- The Honourable Thomas Randolph, member of the Virginia House of Burgesses, begat
-- Col. William Randolph, cousin to President Thomas Jefferson, begat
-- Mary Randolph, who married Col. Tarlton Fleming, begat
-- The Honourable William Randolph Fleming, U.S. Representative from Virginia, begat
-- John Tarlton Fleming begat
-- Lucretia Jane Turner Fleming, who married Martin Guyan Blair, begat
-- Benjamin Vernaldo Blair, DVM, begat
-- Muriel Lavern Blair, who married Wayne Willis Hatting, begat
-- W.S. Hatting begat
-- S.V. Hatting

Thus making Prince Igor of Kiev my 34th Great Grandfather.

Sunday, October 11, 2020

Ancestry through the House of David

Here is my genealogical line going through several of the Jewish Exilarchs all the way from King David of Judah.

King David of Judah, begat
King Solomon of Judah, begat
King Rehoboam of Judah, begat
King Abijah of Judah, begat
King Asa of Judah, begat
King Jehoshaphat of Judah, begat
King Jehoram of Judah, begat
King Ahaziah of Judah, begat
King Jehoash of Judah, begat
King Amaziah of Judah, begat
King Uzziah of Judah, begat
King Jotham of Judah, begat
King Ahaz of Judah, begat
King Hezekiah of Judah, begat
King Manasseh of Judah, begat
King Amon of Judah, begat
King Josiah of Judah, begat
King Jehoiakim of Judah, begat

First Exilarch Dynasty

1st Exilarch/King Jehoiachin (or Jeconiah) of Judah with the heiress Tamar bat Johanan ben Josiah, begat
2nd Exilarch Shialtiel, begat
3rd Exilarch Zerubbabel with Esthra bat Pedaiah ben Neriah, begat
5th Exilarch Hananiah, begat
8th Exilarch Jeshaiah, begat
10th Exilarch Rephaiah, begat
Arnan, begat
11th Exilarch Obadiah, begat
12th Exilarch Shecaniah I, begat
13th Exilarch Shemaiah I, begat
18th Exilarch Neriah, begat
20th Exilarch Elioenai, begat
24th Exilarch Akkub, begat
David, begat
Shlomo, begat
Shemaiah, begat
David, begat
Shecaniah, begat
33rd Exilarch Hezekiah III, begat
Shalom, begat
Nathan, begat
Hunya, begat
Shlomo, begat
Yakov ben Shlomo, begat

Second Exilarch Dynasty

1st Exilarch Ahijah, begat
3rd Exilarch Johanan, begat
Exilarch Shaphat, begat
10th Exilarch Anan, begat
Exilarch Nathan I Ukba, begat
14th Exilarch Nehemiah I ben Nathan, begat
15th Exilarch Mar Ukba II ben Nehemiah, begat
20th Exilarch Abba Mari ha-David, begat
Crown Prince Nathan, begat
23rd Exilarch Mar Khanai ben Nathan, begat
Mar Zutra I, begat
Maremar ha-David, begat
Haninai, head of the Academy, with Hava bat Huna VI (29th Exilarch), begat
30th Exilarch Mar-Zutra II ben Huna, begat
31st Exilarch Hunna Mar II ben Zutra, begat
32nd Exilarch Qafnai ben Hunna, begat
33rd Exilarch Haninai ben Qofnai, begat

Third Exilarch Dynasty

Exilarch Bostanai ben Haninai, begat
Haninai ben Bostanai (whose daughter married Judah), begat
Nehemiah ben Haninai (with Judith bat Ahunai), begat
Isaac, begat
Judah (with Sussanah bat Haninai ben Bostanai), begat
Exilarch David ben Judah, begat
Exilarch Judah I ben David, begat
Zakkai ben Judah, begat
Exilarch David II ben Zakkai, begat
Exilarch Judah II ben David, begat
Exilarch Hezekiah I ben Judah, begat
Exilarch David III ben Hezekiah, begat
Exilarch Hezekiah IV ben David, begat

Josef of Fustat, begat
Pagano Ebriaci di Pisa, begat
Ugo Ebriaci di Pisa, Genoese Patrician, begat
Ugo Ebriaci di Pisa, begat
Maria Ebriach di Pisa with Gonario II of Torres, begat
Barisone II de Torres, Justice of Torres, begat
Comita III de Torres, Justice of Torres with Agnes of Saluzzo, begat
Boniface of Saluzzo, begat
Manfred III, Marquess of Saluzzo, begat
Tommaso I, Marquis of Saluzzo, begat
Alice of Saluzzo with Richard Fitzalan (1st Earl of Arundel), begat
Edmund Fitzalan, 2nd Earl of Arundel, begat
Richard Fitzalan, 3rd Earl of Arundel, begat
Richard Fitzalan, 4th Arundel K.G., begat
Elizabeth Fitzalan, begat
Isabel de Mowbray with James Berkeley, begat
Elizabeth de Berkeley with Thomas Burdett of Rothwell, begat
Mary Burdett with Peter Cave, begat
Thomas Cave, begat
Richard Cave, Esq., begat
Bridget Cave with Francis Tanfield, begat
Ann Tanfield with Clement Vincent, begat
Elizabeth Vincent with Richard Lane, begat
Dorothy Lane with William Randolph, begat
Richard Randolph, begat
Col. William Randolph, begat
Col. Thomas Randolph, begat
Col. William Randolph, begat
Mary Randolph with Col. Tarlton Fleming, begat
William Randolph Fleming, begat
John Tarlton Fleming, begat
Lucretia Jane Turner Fleming with Martin Guyan Blair, begat
Benjamin Blair, begat
Muriel Blair with Wayne W. Hatting, begat
Living Hatting, begat
Living Hatting

Thus numbering the most recent generation to the last Jewish Exilarch at 37 and from the most recent generation to the exile under Persia at 90 and to King David of Judah at 108.

An Interview with Grandma Muriel Blair (Hatting) Voorhees

Steve (S): First thing that I wanted to talk about; I found this in my mom's book collection and I thought maybe you...
Grandma (G): What?
S: I had never seen that one before. What was the story on that?
G: I don't remember it.
S: Oh. *laughter* Do you remember the church at all?
G: Yeah. We went there. They had a... I think they meant Bill. I think they meant him instead of Billy.
S: It's just a Bible, but I though that maybe... Do you have any special memories about that church?
G: It was just a big church. It had a senior choir, a junior choir, and then they had a... every grade had a choir. And they used to come and.. one of the other of the.. would go on. There's one Sunday or another.
S: Okay. Um.. could you talk about your mom and dad for a little while, or what it was like growing up.

 
Pictured: Benjamin V. Blair (1884-?) and Myrtle Lovilla Brown (1884-1980) on their wedding day

G: Well we all lived on this farm. And we all had our certain chores to do. I had a variety of everything; I can't remember. *pause* We had 2 miles and a half to school. We had to go everyday. Sometimes dad would take us and then other times we had to walk. We would have to get up early and cut out through the fields and take short cuts. We had some neighbor kids that we used to go walk with us. That's just life. That's life then.
S: What did you and your brothers and sisters used to talk about when you walked to school? Did you guys used to talk about anything on your walk to school?
G: Nothing special. Our studies mainly.
S: Did you guys talk about boyfriends or girlfriends or anything like that?
G: We were too young. I didn't have that until high school.
S: So you and Wayne went to the same high school and everything?
G: Yeah.
S: Oh! Yeah! What high school was it?
G: Lexington.
S: Then um... I know I asked a while back, but could you describe your father a little bit? Because I thought it was a really good description.
G: He had red hair. He was the real boss of the family. Took us to school. *indistinguishable* We had our certain chores that we'd do that he'd tell us to.
S: What was his personality like?
G: Nice personality. Family. Happy. But he was strict, though. He made us do our chores. I don't know what else.
S: What would he do when you guys misbehaved?
G: Oh. We got punished. He'd ground us. Scold us.
S: Did he ever use a belt or anything like that?
G: No.
S: Good. That's a good thing. *laughter* Um.. hmm... What about Grandpa Wayne's family? What was his family like? What was his father like?

 
 
Pictured: Wayne Willis Hatting (1914-1973)

 
Pictured: Henry & Alice, Robert W. Hatting (1941- ), and Muriel B. Hatting (1910- ) holding William S. Hatting (1946- )

 
Pictured: George Hatting (1889-1966) and daughter Alice and son Wayne Hatting

 
Pictured: Robert W. Hatting, Joseph A. Hatting (great-grandfather) (1860-?), and William Hatting

G: Well, he saw to it that we got our chores done. Of course he was my husband then. We got along real well.
S: Did he live on the farm with you and...? No?
G: No. He ran a service station in Lexington.
S: Like a gas station? Huh... Interesting, I didn't know that before.
G: Oh, didn't you? That was when we were first married. He ran it and later on he went to school and got more education in electrical work as an electrical engineer. He wouldn't take *indistinguishable* lose the possibility of his health. He couldn't stand it.
S: Um... what about his parents?
G: *indistinguishable* We didn't know them too well
S: Do you know what his name is?
G: George. His name was George.
S: Yeah... and then...?
G: Her name was Katherine (or Catherine).
S: What about Grandpa Wayne's sister?
G: She went into nurses training at *indistinguishable* in *indistinguishable*, Nebraska and she got involved in drugs, sorry to say. She had a bad life. Then after that she didn't take her state board to get her license. Then she went to... she got into more trouble and that's when she died. *pause* She was a nurse.
Dad (D): What state was she certified in?
S: Oh! What state was she certified in?
G: What?
S: Dad wants to know what state she was certified in.
G: Nebraska.
D: Who was she married to?
S: Oh. Um... Who was Alice married to?
G: Henry something. I can't remember his last name. Henry...
S: So you did meet George, right? When you met him, what did he look like and...?
G: Well... he was just an ordinary man.
S: Did he have dark hair or...?
G: Yeah.
S: What about his eyes?
G: I don't recall.
S: That's fine. Um... When you... Okay... You and your family would sit around the dinner table, what... um... did you guys talk about stuff or anything like that?
G: Well, it was a little bit of everything. Just things that were going on.
S: What about the Great Depression? What was that like?
G: Well, that took jobs away from a lot of people and made it hard for people to get work and have food on the table and stuff like that. We were on a farm so we didn't have to worry too much about food. We had eggs and chickens, and meat from the stock. If you tried to sell anything there was no price for them. Everything was *indistinguishable*. You couldn't make any money.
S: Um... did you ever run across anyone who wondered into the farms?
G: I don't know about that.
S: How did you come to live in California?
G: When Wayne and I got married we decided we would go live in Seattle, Washington, so after we got married we took off. And then...uh... I don't know how we got into California.
D: Shasta.
G: Oh. Your dad (talking to my dad) worked at Shasta at a warehouse.
S: Um... Tell me about your grandparents, Robert Brown and...?
G: I never did know him too well. He was ailing then and when I was growing up and then he passed away before I got to know him.
S: What about your Grandmother?
G: My Grandma was on a farm and I. Then she asked me if I come live with her. So I moved in with her.

 
Pictured: Robert Brown (1841-1922) and his wife, Leni Leona Tucker (1856-1932).

S: Any stories that stand out about her? Did she used to talk about her parents?
G: No.
S: Um... Did you... let's see... I have the dates written down here but "Joseph Hatting?" Did you ever meet him?
G: Yeah. That was Wayne's grandfather.
S: Um... what was he like.
G: Very nice man. Retired farmer. He was always looking our for everybody. Always interested in what Wayne did. Then when we moved to the coast, they were still in Nebraska so it was quite a long distance between us so we didn't see them for quite a long time. I used to write him a letter every week and tell him what we were doing and everything and share things; Wayne was in school. They wanted to know about that. Then after his grandmother died he made a trip out to see us.
S: Were you talking about Matilda?
G: Grandma Matilda Hatting.
S: What did he look like? What was his appearance?
G: Didn't you see in the pictures?
S: No.
G: I've got some in my albums.
S: Well, we looked through three or four and I didn't see any in there. It's mostly you and Jim.
G: Well I've got some small ones... small albums. Those are the big ones. It's in the small ones.

(After looking through a couple more of the 10-12 albums I didn't see earlier, we found some of Joseph Hatting, George, and family. Keep in mind, up to this point I had never seen George and the only photo I had seen of Joseph, I thought it was George.)

 
Pictured: Joseph A. Hatting and his wife, Matilda Swanson Hatting

Friday, November 16, 2018

Random Photos of the Week (this isn't a constant thing)



William "Earl" Early Weimar reads the Sunday morning paper in his favorite chair. Earl was born Aug 25, 1885 and married his wife when he was 25 in Hale County, Texas on Aug 24, 1909. He passed away in Salem, Oregon in October of 1978.

Wednesday, January 01, 2014

Surname Etymology

History

I've known this for a while, but I wanted to write it and put it out there in case anyone else had some questions about the possible origin of our surname. The name Hatting comes from the name of a village in Skåne in Sweden known today as Hättinge. When we took the name, we dropped the 'e' so that it became just "Hätting." This surname is still seen in parts of Sweden. Upon immigrating (especially since we did not come directly from Sweden to America), the umlauts were lost making it only Hatting.

In addition, there is some history with South Africa associated with our surname, but they've added the "-gh" making it Hattingh. This is simply because in Afrikaans, the 'g' is more gutteral and the 'gh' is the equivalent to the English and Swedish phoneme 'g'.

Etymology

As for the meaning of the surname, there are a few possible translations into English, it can mean.

The first roughly translates as, "of the hatter." "Hätt" is hat and "-ing" is an Old Germanic patronymic suffix like "-ovich," "-ov," or "-enko" in the Slavic languages.

The second possibility (and far more likely based on the history), is a specially designated place to the Scandinavian god, Freyr. Roughly translated into English, it is, "Place of the god, Freyr." I'll try to explain to the best of my abilities. Hätt is the Old Germanic for "have." "-Ing" is the Old Germanic name for the god, Freyr. Thus, it can mean "have the god, Freyr," or, as I believe is more appropriate, "the god, Freyr, was/is there" since it became the name of a place.

Both of these are merely hypotheses, though, and they may change as further linguistic information and information come to light.

Saturday, June 29, 2013

Hatting Family Tree of America

I've finally made a breakthrough in my long desired goal of compiling a Hatting family tree of all of our American relatives. A large majority of them are centred around Kankakee, Illinois. I've been working closely with my father on this and here's what I've got so far. If you have found this list and wish to contact me, and/or have your own contribution that you'd like to make, please feel free to email me by clicking here. Each person is organized by generation. William Hatting (b. 1828) is the first generation, John & Matilda are the second generation, and so on.

1. William Hatting (b. 24 December 1828) + Helena Krupp
.2. John + Matilda (after being widowed, Matilda married Joseph A. Hatting too)
..3. William Hatting
..3. Mamie Hatting
..3. George Hatting
...4. Alice Hatting + Henry Mollyneaux
...4. (La)Wayne Hatting + Muriel L. Blair
....5. Robert W. Hatting
....+ George Ann Knave
.....6. Mark Hatting
.....6. Luanne Hatting + Eldon Willsey
....+ Roberta (Bo)
.....6. Heather Hatting
.....6. Timothy Hatting
....5. William S. Hatting
....+ Kathy Janz
.....6. Derek S. Hatting + Koni
......7. Stephanie Hatting
......7. Samuel Hatting
.....6. Angela D. Hatting
......7. Alma A. Hatting
.......8. Alex Hatting
....+ Drew Weimar
.....6. Mark W. Hatting + Cindy M. Stubbles
.....6. Stephan V. Hatting
..3. Grace Hatting (Joseph's only daughter)
.2. George + Agnes Gibbons
..3. Frank R. Hatting + Edna
...4. William F. Hatting + Juanice Lehman
....5. Richard Hatting + Jeanne
....5. Thomas Hatting + Alice
...4. Margaret Hatting + Harold Ziemer
...4. Phyllis A. Hatting
...4. Betty Hatting
..3. William J. Hatting + Luetta
...4. John E. Hatting
..3. Leona Hatting
..3. Florence Hatting
..3. George R. Hatting + Mary Benoit
...4. Patrick Hatting
.2. Henry + Christina Klekamp
..3. George Hatting
..3. Henry W. Hatting + Bessie
...4. Ruth Hatting
...4. John H. Hatting
...4. Mary Jane Hatting

Monday, March 11, 2013

My Earliest European Ancestor (Some Possible Mythology Present)

King Saurmag I of Iberia, who begat
Saumag's Daughter married King Mirian I of Iberia, begat
Sister of King Parnajom married King Artaxias I of Iberia, begat
King Artoces of Iberia, begat
King Parnavaz II of Iberia, begat
Daughter of Parnavaz II marries Koudjide Kartham, begat
King Pharmasmenes I of Iberia, begat
King Mithradates I of Iberia, begat
King Amazaspus I of Iberia, begat
King Pharmasmenes II of Iberia, begat
King Rhadamiste I of Iberia, begat
King Pharasmenes III of Iberia, begat
Daughter of Pharasmenes III married Shah Vologases V of Partia, begat
King Khosrov I of Armenia, begat
King Tiridates II of Armenia, begat
King Khosrov II of Armenia, begat
King Tiridates III of Armenia, who proclaimed Christianity as the official religion, begat
King Khosrov III the Small, begat
Princess Bambish married Atanagenes, begat
Saint Nerses I, a direct paternal descendant of Saint Gregory the Enlightened of Armenia.